“It’s also that [kids are] just more playful. … you’re not locked into a designers solution, right? And playfulness is a real advantage… You see adults trying to find the ‘right’ way. ‘What’s the right answer?’ And you see kids just play. ‘I’m just gonna spray paint around and see what happens. I’m gonna spray thinner around and see what happens.’ And stuff happens, amazingly enough! And adults are sitting there going ‘Hm, what should I do?’”